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eagerr2i
07-19 11:49 AM
As Pappu mentioned, the $ 64,000 figure is not a typo. That indeed is the money that was spent by him individually. Logiclife and others made trips to DC,air travel, hotel etc.. does add up real fast. All the expenses on these travels have been borne by the individuals and have not been reimbursed. More than 99 % of the IV funds has been used for advocacy efforts and getting council.
The kind of commitment shown by Aman and logiclife is unparallel and they deserve our salutes and wishes. Also, do not forget to contribute to Immigration Voice. What we have achieved is interim relief, there has more work to be done in the future.
The kind of commitment shown by Aman and logiclife is unparallel and they deserve our salutes and wishes. Also, do not forget to contribute to Immigration Voice. What we have achieved is interim relief, there has more work to be done in the future.
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gjoe
10-28 05:35 PM
I was seeing lot of posts in this forum about reverse brain drain, so I wanted to comeup with a question which would answer my question without doubt.
I wanted to see if all those who are in the GC queue and think that they are a very important for America and insist on that in their signature by saying "Help us stop reverse brain drain" are really meaning what they say.
I beleive if we are so much in demand we can get a job in another country and have similar quality of life or better. So only poeple who are confident of the reverse brain drain and America should stop it will not hesitate to vote "Yes" if they are so frustated with the GC wait times.
Once again thanks to everyone who so far particiapted in this poll and posted comments.
Some people have given me negative reps for this poll saying it is useless but never say why "they" think it is useless. I would appreciate if you can post your opinion with those negative reps. Offcourse postive reps can be without opinon :D
I wanted to see if all those who are in the GC queue and think that they are a very important for America and insist on that in their signature by saying "Help us stop reverse brain drain" are really meaning what they say.
I beleive if we are so much in demand we can get a job in another country and have similar quality of life or better. So only poeple who are confident of the reverse brain drain and America should stop it will not hesitate to vote "Yes" if they are so frustated with the GC wait times.
Once again thanks to everyone who so far particiapted in this poll and posted comments.
Some people have given me negative reps for this poll saying it is useless but never say why "they" think it is useless. I would appreciate if you can post your opinion with those negative reps. Offcourse postive reps can be without opinon :D
snowshoe
04-26 02:06 PM
I heard about IV from the Washington Post article. Used the webfax service and then came across this forum. Just contibuted $40, and spread the word to my friends waiting for labor.
Good luck and good bye.
Good luck and good bye.
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kumar1
10-03 09:56 AM
My post is going to make few MS/Phd people angry over here. Correct me if I am wrong, but when you came here to do MS/Phd, you came on a student visa...Right? Student visa comes under Non Permanent Non Resident alien category. All of you had a burden to prove to the US consulate that after you complete your degree, you would go back to your home country. All of you prepared for that and you knew the moment you said, I might not come back, F1 would be gone! You said this...every time you went back for F1 visa revalidation. Mind you..that H1/H4 never had that burden. They could have easily said that yes, if I like USA, I might not come back.
Now fast forward....MS/Phd is done. Suddenly...."I will go home after MS/Phd" statement is gone..and hunt for H1-B is on! Once they get H1-B, hunt for Green Card starts. Once this heavy head Phd guy, who spent last 5 years on 1500 bucks a month is in GC line....he also realizes that hey, H1-Bs should not be allowed to interfile. After all, they all work for desi consulting companies. Yeah..right! Look who is talking! All H1s should come in EB-3, after all they did not go through 1500 bucks a month for 5 years.
Here comes a Phd guy who always lied to the system saying "I love my home country, my research would do wonders to the society at home" is not leaving any stone unturned to get his GC (faster than anyone else).....tell me, who is inferior? A Phd student who lied to the system for 4/5 years and suddenly changed his intent or an H1-B candidate who never had the burden to prove that he would go back.
All of us are part of this very painful journey! I have spent 8 years on H1-B and I am still waiting for my GC. I work for a desi consulting company, my GC is in EB-3, I have a B.Tech. degree from IIT and I am sick and tired of this GC mess.
Now fast forward....MS/Phd is done. Suddenly...."I will go home after MS/Phd" statement is gone..and hunt for H1-B is on! Once they get H1-B, hunt for Green Card starts. Once this heavy head Phd guy, who spent last 5 years on 1500 bucks a month is in GC line....he also realizes that hey, H1-Bs should not be allowed to interfile. After all, they all work for desi consulting companies. Yeah..right! Look who is talking! All H1s should come in EB-3, after all they did not go through 1500 bucks a month for 5 years.
Here comes a Phd guy who always lied to the system saying "I love my home country, my research would do wonders to the society at home" is not leaving any stone unturned to get his GC (faster than anyone else).....tell me, who is inferior? A Phd student who lied to the system for 4/5 years and suddenly changed his intent or an H1-B candidate who never had the burden to prove that he would go back.
All of us are part of this very painful journey! I have spent 8 years on H1-B and I am still waiting for my GC. I work for a desi consulting company, my GC is in EB-3, I have a B.Tech. degree from IIT and I am sick and tired of this GC mess.
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logiclife
02-05 05:27 PM
Ok Logiclife, i did not intend to start a war or anything of the sort. I was just giving suggestions in light of the fact that inspite of IV working VERY hard, nothing is happening on the GC front. That is the ONLY reason I put up this post.
One more thing. You mentioned that a lot of people are not contributing, maybe the reason is that not everyone wants a GC that desperately. Some people are fine with working here temporarily and then going back after making some money. Besides some members who have contributed in the past may be wondering if it even makes sense to contribute again, being that there has been no real progress on the GC front since Dec 2005 (the birth of IV). Now do not get me wrong I KNOW how hard the IV team has worked and how many time we came SO SO SO close to getting our dreams realized in the Senate only to be crushed in the house again.
My point was, maybe it is time to face the facts. The government has changed but the basic attitude towards the "immigrant" is the same. This is because the average American, views immigrants as a threat. Now we can argue all we want on that statement, but in our hearts we know that the "AVERAGE American" would rather Not have immigrants come to the US (legal or illegal). In light of these events does it not make sense to ask for simpler goals? Goals like 485 filing or H4 Eads etc. Sure it makes us look weak in front of the anti-immigrants, but then are we here to solve our problems or to prove the anti-immigrants wrong?
Lastly this was NOT a threat nor was it intended to be a Threat that "take my advice or i will leave". Just a simple suggestion in light of things to come.
I know you are not threatening to leave. But eventually some one will. It always happens when one or other item is included or excluded from agenda.
Anyways, this isnt about looking weak or strong against anti-immigrants. That is really not the issue here.
Its about how much we can have in our list of items. There is only so much anyone can do. Forget about us, even bigger organizations have priorities in order. Immigration Voice also has to have a priority. We cannot talk to anyone about fixing the H4 issues before the issues of retrogression are talked about. And we cannot talk about ALL OF THEM because there is room for only so much to talk about. There is a limit on everything. Limit on how much funds we have, limit on how much political capital does our lobbyist spend on our organization with lawmakers, limit on how much leverage the lawmaker uses to sponsor an amendment for us. No one has unlimited capacity to get things achieved. So in that sense, H4 issues really cannot be on the list. And as far as "nothing is happening, let's get temporary relief and let's not fight for more numbers" idea is concerned, we are already doing that by trying to get 485 filing provision done in next few days as a temporary relief. Now tell me, how is that not tied to H4s. EVERY SINGLE ITEM on our goals benefits H4 spouses indirectly. Including the short term goals of IV.
One more thing. You mentioned that a lot of people are not contributing, maybe the reason is that not everyone wants a GC that desperately. Some people are fine with working here temporarily and then going back after making some money. Besides some members who have contributed in the past may be wondering if it even makes sense to contribute again, being that there has been no real progress on the GC front since Dec 2005 (the birth of IV). Now do not get me wrong I KNOW how hard the IV team has worked and how many time we came SO SO SO close to getting our dreams realized in the Senate only to be crushed in the house again.
My point was, maybe it is time to face the facts. The government has changed but the basic attitude towards the "immigrant" is the same. This is because the average American, views immigrants as a threat. Now we can argue all we want on that statement, but in our hearts we know that the "AVERAGE American" would rather Not have immigrants come to the US (legal or illegal). In light of these events does it not make sense to ask for simpler goals? Goals like 485 filing or H4 Eads etc. Sure it makes us look weak in front of the anti-immigrants, but then are we here to solve our problems or to prove the anti-immigrants wrong?
Lastly this was NOT a threat nor was it intended to be a Threat that "take my advice or i will leave". Just a simple suggestion in light of things to come.
I know you are not threatening to leave. But eventually some one will. It always happens when one or other item is included or excluded from agenda.
Anyways, this isnt about looking weak or strong against anti-immigrants. That is really not the issue here.
Its about how much we can have in our list of items. There is only so much anyone can do. Forget about us, even bigger organizations have priorities in order. Immigration Voice also has to have a priority. We cannot talk to anyone about fixing the H4 issues before the issues of retrogression are talked about. And we cannot talk about ALL OF THEM because there is room for only so much to talk about. There is a limit on everything. Limit on how much funds we have, limit on how much political capital does our lobbyist spend on our organization with lawmakers, limit on how much leverage the lawmaker uses to sponsor an amendment for us. No one has unlimited capacity to get things achieved. So in that sense, H4 issues really cannot be on the list. And as far as "nothing is happening, let's get temporary relief and let's not fight for more numbers" idea is concerned, we are already doing that by trying to get 485 filing provision done in next few days as a temporary relief. Now tell me, how is that not tied to H4s. EVERY SINGLE ITEM on our goals benefits H4 spouses indirectly. Including the short term goals of IV.
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StuckInTheMuck
04-30 12:02 AM
Just out of curiosity, why "shred" photocopies, except maybe for better document management and not drowning in paper?
Is there some ramification towards citizenship?
Better documentation is the reason why I got rid of those photocopies (I had crate-loads of them piled up over time). I guess you can just throw this junk in your recycle bin too. But because these are immigration-related papers, and all sorts of shady ID thieves are snooping around these days, I permitted myself a little paranoia and shoved them down my office shredder.
Insane list ...I lost 50% of my head hair staying in US since last 10 yrs and now loose the rest doing the book keeping...no wonder stone age was fun ;-)
Thank your stars - I already lost almost all my hair over the last 10 years of stay here. This is the curse of progress - another million years later, if the human race survives guns and germs, our descendants would likewise wish they were back in our stone age :)
Is there some ramification towards citizenship?
Better documentation is the reason why I got rid of those photocopies (I had crate-loads of them piled up over time). I guess you can just throw this junk in your recycle bin too. But because these are immigration-related papers, and all sorts of shady ID thieves are snooping around these days, I permitted myself a little paranoia and shoved them down my office shredder.
Insane list ...I lost 50% of my head hair staying in US since last 10 yrs and now loose the rest doing the book keeping...no wonder stone age was fun ;-)
Thank your stars - I already lost almost all my hair over the last 10 years of stay here. This is the curse of progress - another million years later, if the human race survives guns and germs, our descendants would likewise wish they were back in our stone age :)
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reachag
04-19 03:05 PM
Contributed 100$...more in a few days...
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diya
03-20 04:55 PM
Your comment reminded me of something I had penned down right after Prime Minister Manmohan Singh visit to the US. It was very depressing.
A White Collar Slave
Prime Minister Manmohan Singh�s visit to the White House was well reported in the media and the Presidents acknowledgement of the contributions made by the people of India- Indian American�s was most gracious. He also made a point to acknowledge the contributions made by Indian students to America�s Universities. All this is most heart-warming. However, as a legal non-permanent resident awaiting labor certification (or the ability to work) since the past 3 years I feel bound by invisible chains whose cold steel refuses to be warmed. The labor certification process is technically supposed to take 12 months.
Post 9-11, grinding to a near halt the labor certification process of permanent residency applicants is a �win-win� opportunity for the government. Get these highly skilled laborers on a short-term lease of an H1B. Pass off the bureaucracy and red tape of the INS on the process of Homeland security. The latest breakdown, the INS information technology system has been down for 6 weeks now. When asked questions about a status of the system, they donot respond
HIB visa holders make money in dollars that certainly affords them a higher income than would have been possible in their own country. I donot want to undervalue this benefit. But, the American government and citizens hugely profit from the brief stay of these H1B�s in America. H1B�s make money, 99% of which is placed in American banks, which enables banks to fund American projects of citizens and noncitizens. They buy American stock, pay into a social security system and a pension fund that the may not have access to when they themselves are seniors- after all the H1B is only for 6 years. Besides the obvious monetary contributions, they contribute culturally, linguistically and through charity to American society
While they are contributing in as many ways to the American society. Their own lives are in limbo. Continuously stressed over the next rule change in visa status that may affect them, or visiting relatives. Their able spouses unable to work due to visa restrictions. Most of them, live in clean, minimal living comforts as there is always the thought of having liquid cash as one may need to leave the country and then having expensive electronics, cars or furniture may not make any sense. For most of them it does not make sense to own a house on a 6-year work contract.
The opposing argument is that HIB visa holders are subjecting themselves to this lifestyle. After all there are no visible chains around their feet, they are free to return and contribute to the economy of their own countries. But the �American dream� is an invisible chain currently held by INS merchants as they pull, push or decide to hold steady their white-collar slaves.
A White Collar Slave
Prime Minister Manmohan Singh�s visit to the White House was well reported in the media and the Presidents acknowledgement of the contributions made by the people of India- Indian American�s was most gracious. He also made a point to acknowledge the contributions made by Indian students to America�s Universities. All this is most heart-warming. However, as a legal non-permanent resident awaiting labor certification (or the ability to work) since the past 3 years I feel bound by invisible chains whose cold steel refuses to be warmed. The labor certification process is technically supposed to take 12 months.
Post 9-11, grinding to a near halt the labor certification process of permanent residency applicants is a �win-win� opportunity for the government. Get these highly skilled laborers on a short-term lease of an H1B. Pass off the bureaucracy and red tape of the INS on the process of Homeland security. The latest breakdown, the INS information technology system has been down for 6 weeks now. When asked questions about a status of the system, they donot respond
HIB visa holders make money in dollars that certainly affords them a higher income than would have been possible in their own country. I donot want to undervalue this benefit. But, the American government and citizens hugely profit from the brief stay of these H1B�s in America. H1B�s make money, 99% of which is placed in American banks, which enables banks to fund American projects of citizens and noncitizens. They buy American stock, pay into a social security system and a pension fund that the may not have access to when they themselves are seniors- after all the H1B is only for 6 years. Besides the obvious monetary contributions, they contribute culturally, linguistically and through charity to American society
While they are contributing in as many ways to the American society. Their own lives are in limbo. Continuously stressed over the next rule change in visa status that may affect them, or visiting relatives. Their able spouses unable to work due to visa restrictions. Most of them, live in clean, minimal living comforts as there is always the thought of having liquid cash as one may need to leave the country and then having expensive electronics, cars or furniture may not make any sense. For most of them it does not make sense to own a house on a 6-year work contract.
The opposing argument is that HIB visa holders are subjecting themselves to this lifestyle. After all there are no visible chains around their feet, they are free to return and contribute to the economy of their own countries. But the �American dream� is an invisible chain currently held by INS merchants as they pull, push or decide to hold steady their white-collar slaves.
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eb3retro
06-13 09:28 PM
not sure how to do this. can some one in this thread create a poll just for eb3-India just to see a ball park number of people waiting in eb3 india and for how long they are waiting (may be we can start from jan 2001 all the way till jun 2008). This atleast would give us an idea of how many IVers are waiting in eb3 queue..pls discard if you did not like this idea. thanks.
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GCneeded
06-07 02:09 PM
Immigration is a privilege when we enter the country. But when we have been here for such a long time, paid our taxes and respected the administration and bureaucracy, it�s our right. As for the job loss, no job is certain for anyone. But at least a GC holder can look for alternate jobs. He is not tied to his labor cert/employer. When employees post for job, they might say �need a citizen or gc holder�. But never say we only need a H1-B holder. So when we have respected and followed the rules of this country immigration becomes a right as logic life suggested.
My 2 cents�
My 2 cents�
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wikipedia_fan
03-30 02:40 PM
Forum Gurus - I got a denial letter on my 485. I am a July 2007 filer and applied for AOS in July 2007. My 140 was revoked by ex employer in August 2008 and immediately I got a NOID from USCIS and responded to it in a timely manner and my case processing resumed.
But now, I got a denial stating that my 140 has been revoked in August 2008 and thats why my 485 is denied. My Attorney is filing for MTR and says it is a mistake on their side and will be resolved through MTR.
It just baffles me that the person who sent the denial letter never looked into the system to see my case trail and blindly issued the denial notice. My Attorney says, it is very much possible that they do not look at RFEs or responses - they just issue denials when they browse through the 140s.
I am EB2 India with a priority date of March 2006. I think some kind of pre assessment is going on. There are no LUDs and mine is at the TSC.
Is there anyone else in the same boat? How long does it take for MTR to get processed?
But now, I got a denial stating that my 140 has been revoked in August 2008 and thats why my 485 is denied. My Attorney is filing for MTR and says it is a mistake on their side and will be resolved through MTR.
It just baffles me that the person who sent the denial letter never looked into the system to see my case trail and blindly issued the denial notice. My Attorney says, it is very much possible that they do not look at RFEs or responses - they just issue denials when they browse through the 140s.
I am EB2 India with a priority date of March 2006. I think some kind of pre assessment is going on. There are no LUDs and mine is at the TSC.
Is there anyone else in the same boat? How long does it take for MTR to get processed?
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sanjoo
02-09 03:22 PM
My priority date is Jan 04 EB2 and I have a very good job offer. I am in dilemma whether to change the job or just wait for the PD to become current. I have recently got my H1 approval for 3 more year on the basis for 140 approval.
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jnraajan
03-13 05:10 PM
jnrajaan: Thank you for your critical feedback, it is useful.
Just a quick clarification. The time line extension for Admin fix letter campaigned was requested by various state chapter volunteers including myself, abhijit and others. The reason was the traction they were gaining after volunteering on the ground for few weeks. The idea was to leverage that instead of just ending the admin fix letter campaign on a fixed date.
I agree with the reasons behind it, now that I know it.
Just so, everyone understand, I am not trying to find fault with IV or its members. I am trying to do, what you can call, soul searching.
We have around 25000 members. Why only 25000, when we know there are millions out there in the same boat. What is stopping them from joining IV and contributing? Of all these 25000 or so members, we only have around 4000 letters sent for Admin fixes.(May be I am wrong about this number, but I believe it is around that range.) What is preventing the others from doing so?
I strongly believe, that the answers to these questions might help IV in the long run, with more members and possibly more active members. Once we get to that point, IV will no longer be an organization, but it will be a MOVEMENT. Chances of success for a movement is always better than that of an organization. That is what I believe we should try to achieve. I hope everyone agress with that.
Thanks
Just a quick clarification. The time line extension for Admin fix letter campaigned was requested by various state chapter volunteers including myself, abhijit and others. The reason was the traction they were gaining after volunteering on the ground for few weeks. The idea was to leverage that instead of just ending the admin fix letter campaign on a fixed date.
I agree with the reasons behind it, now that I know it.
Just so, everyone understand, I am not trying to find fault with IV or its members. I am trying to do, what you can call, soul searching.
We have around 25000 members. Why only 25000, when we know there are millions out there in the same boat. What is stopping them from joining IV and contributing? Of all these 25000 or so members, we only have around 4000 letters sent for Admin fixes.(May be I am wrong about this number, but I believe it is around that range.) What is preventing the others from doing so?
I strongly believe, that the answers to these questions might help IV in the long run, with more members and possibly more active members. Once we get to that point, IV will no longer be an organization, but it will be a MOVEMENT. Chances of success for a movement is always better than that of an organization. That is what I believe we should try to achieve. I hope everyone agress with that.
Thanks
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08-11 01:06 PM
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kvranand
04-28 01:03 PM
kbsyed61,
Same thing is happening to my wife's RFE response too. We have submitted the response to her RFE (Birth certificate Affidavit) on 04/24. I have received an e-mail on the very same day from USCIS that thay have received the response and the case process resumed. I saw soft LUD's on 04/27, 04/28. I guess it will stop after couple of more soft LUD's as our PD's are not current. I assume we are okay as long as we do not get more RFE's on the same issue.:)
Same thing is happening to my wife's RFE response too. We have submitted the response to her RFE (Birth certificate Affidavit) on 04/24. I have received an e-mail on the very same day from USCIS that thay have received the response and the case process resumed. I saw soft LUD's on 04/27, 04/28. I guess it will stop after couple of more soft LUD's as our PD's are not current. I assume we are okay as long as we do not get more RFE's on the same issue.:)
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03-29 02:26 PM
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ThinkTwice
07-11 05:12 PM
With the immense success of the 'Gandhigiri' movement, there is possibility that this rally could get the desired attention.
Please encourage people you know to join in the rally.
-We have members of the chinese community joining us in large numbers.
-We have a member of the Indian Student Association of the SanJose State University trying to spread the word.
The momemtum is gathering, please do your part.......
Thanks
Please encourage people you know to join in the rally.
-We have members of the chinese community joining us in large numbers.
-We have a member of the Indian Student Association of the SanJose State University trying to spread the word.
The momemtum is gathering, please do your part.......
Thanks
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Leo07
11-06 12:26 PM
Thanks for the post.
I see no good intentions from the text...he's just disappointed that his bill did not pass and want to piggy back on a bill that has good chances.
I see no good intentions from the text...he's just disappointed that his bill did not pass and want to piggy back on a bill that has good chances.
alisa
03-10 06:47 PM
Please realize that
a) immigrationvoice.com is a tool for the Immigration Voice organization. This website/forum has 10K members, and in any population of 10,000 people, you will get all sorts and kinds of people. There will be no unanimity of views. So, when it doesn't cost to express an opinion, you will get lots of opinions.
As we get more and more members, the number of opinions is only going to increase.
ImmigrationVoice Organization on the other hand, consists of some influential core members who have been working on EB-based issues for more than a year. This organization also has some active state chapters.
I would request you and your like-minded friend not to confuse the organization with the website.
Join the organization. Thats what matters. The website is only a tool.
b) The REAL POWER of this organization will lie in its state chapters. Trust me. If you sit with ten people you know, and talk about these issues, and resolve to do something about the situation, and come up with an action plan and an operating mechanism, that will be where the strength of IV lies.
This forum provides good live information (when there is a senate testimony, or call Senator session's office campaign going on), and sometimes useful information and announcements.
But most of the time, you will get opinions, and comic relief from here.
Friend of mine (to whom I contacted regarding IV) is in USA for 7 years and knows how lobbying & party funds are raised (including Watergate) and also very much aware of "Retrogression" and problems of being "Legal".
Also, he is aware of cause of IV and appreciate that but he is un-comfortable because whenever he login to IV, he noticed that:
- more than 40-50% respondents are talking about money/contributions & signatures showing how much they have contributed as of today,
- 10-15% are talking about blocking non-contributors(calling by Free Lunchers etc..),
- 5 % are Pseudo intellectuals (talking BIG but dont know immigration basics like - PD, issues of I-140/I485)
- 5% are always trying to shutdown others, accusing/calling by names to other forum members (he says "Highly skilled" in accusing!!)
- and remaining are "Positive" contributors for IVs retrogression cause (talking about - I spoke to senators office, can we arrange rallies, when to Fax/fliers, when State chapters are going to meet, posting excerpts from senate/CSPAN/News etc..)
Is our audience is so? Can we focus on our cause? pl be together like.. Like-Minded!!!
a) immigrationvoice.com is a tool for the Immigration Voice organization. This website/forum has 10K members, and in any population of 10,000 people, you will get all sorts and kinds of people. There will be no unanimity of views. So, when it doesn't cost to express an opinion, you will get lots of opinions.
As we get more and more members, the number of opinions is only going to increase.
ImmigrationVoice Organization on the other hand, consists of some influential core members who have been working on EB-based issues for more than a year. This organization also has some active state chapters.
I would request you and your like-minded friend not to confuse the organization with the website.
Join the organization. Thats what matters. The website is only a tool.
b) The REAL POWER of this organization will lie in its state chapters. Trust me. If you sit with ten people you know, and talk about these issues, and resolve to do something about the situation, and come up with an action plan and an operating mechanism, that will be where the strength of IV lies.
This forum provides good live information (when there is a senate testimony, or call Senator session's office campaign going on), and sometimes useful information and announcements.
But most of the time, you will get opinions, and comic relief from here.
Friend of mine (to whom I contacted regarding IV) is in USA for 7 years and knows how lobbying & party funds are raised (including Watergate) and also very much aware of "Retrogression" and problems of being "Legal".
Also, he is aware of cause of IV and appreciate that but he is un-comfortable because whenever he login to IV, he noticed that:
- more than 40-50% respondents are talking about money/contributions & signatures showing how much they have contributed as of today,
- 10-15% are talking about blocking non-contributors(calling by Free Lunchers etc..),
- 5 % are Pseudo intellectuals (talking BIG but dont know immigration basics like - PD, issues of I-140/I485)
- 5% are always trying to shutdown others, accusing/calling by names to other forum members (he says "Highly skilled" in accusing!!)
- and remaining are "Positive" contributors for IVs retrogression cause (talking about - I spoke to senators office, can we arrange rallies, when to Fax/fliers, when State chapters are going to meet, posting excerpts from senate/CSPAN/News etc..)
Is our audience is so? Can we focus on our cause? pl be together like.. Like-Minded!!!
edaltsis
09-24 12:57 PM
Take it easy! He vented out his anger for no reason, just forgive him or ignore his ignorance. IV welcomes donations but its for a reason, to maintain such a good portal. May be he dint like this.
