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02-13 04:25 PM
I realize that there is no point in telling you guys anything. When you don't have an open mind, you can not accept the facts. It's like banging your heads against steel wall. When you are not even ready to diagnose the disease, there is little hope you will be able to cure it. Denial is a beautiful thing.
So I apologize for my comments.
Here is something you will love:
Congratulations IV and the core team! Keep up the good work.
Please dont bang your head on the wall.The wall will break.Please dont apologize.If you really mean it can you please start actively participating in activities which will help everybody.I dont mean that you have to be with IV forum.I know that you are disillusioned with the IV forum.You can take some responsibility and start educating the law makers and people who are in your area.You can do this on your individual capacity you need not represent any forum.This will benefit everybody including ,you ,me and lot of other people who are undergoing this pain.
We have to all work together to achieve our goals whether you are in IV forum or not.
So I apologize for my comments.
Here is something you will love:
Congratulations IV and the core team! Keep up the good work.
Please dont bang your head on the wall.The wall will break.Please dont apologize.If you really mean it can you please start actively participating in activities which will help everybody.I dont mean that you have to be with IV forum.I know that you are disillusioned with the IV forum.You can take some responsibility and start educating the law makers and people who are in your area.You can do this on your individual capacity you need not represent any forum.This will benefit everybody including ,you ,me and lot of other people who are undergoing this pain.
We have to all work together to achieve our goals whether you are in IV forum or not.
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husker
07-19 12:02 PM
People, since Aman and lets not forget other core members also who I am sure have racked up a lot of out of pocket cost we as a community should gather funds for administrative cost also. GC is not just Aman's/ pappu/logiclife and others core member's dream...its OUR dream, and its not fair that in spite of knowing the time and money spent by the core members we donot share the burden.
So here is what I am thinking, there are 21000+ members of which I think 10,000 can be considered the real people (I am sure there are more..but a real conservative estimate) if we all pitch in $10 for administrative cost I think it would not put any dent in our pockets and this collective effort would not create a financial burden on any of the core members.
Even though IV is not for profit, there is no rule which says that you cannot have funds for administrative cost. In fact one rule of thumb to give to any NOP charitable organization like united way etc is to look at their admin cost. Why not IV have that.
Any thoughts!
Lets not make this a core team fight only...people are jumping in the boat and asking all and any question they can..and when it comes to giving money they will say that..oh I cant no money...I am not a rich guy my self but managed to give $200 and now signed up for $50 yesterday...looking at what a lot of people are doing I think I might have to go to $100.
So here is what I am thinking, there are 21000+ members of which I think 10,000 can be considered the real people (I am sure there are more..but a real conservative estimate) if we all pitch in $10 for administrative cost I think it would not put any dent in our pockets and this collective effort would not create a financial burden on any of the core members.
Even though IV is not for profit, there is no rule which says that you cannot have funds for administrative cost. In fact one rule of thumb to give to any NOP charitable organization like united way etc is to look at their admin cost. Why not IV have that.
Any thoughts!
Lets not make this a core team fight only...people are jumping in the boat and asking all and any question they can..and when it comes to giving money they will say that..oh I cant no money...I am not a rich guy my self but managed to give $200 and now signed up for $50 yesterday...looking at what a lot of people are doing I think I might have to go to $100.
sam_gada
07-12 03:18 AM
News has been spread to Herguyen University, Santa Clara University and ITU
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nik.patelc
04-04 12:11 PM
Does USCIS send RFE for both primary & dependent applications, if it is related to Employment?
Gurus, any advise.
Gurus, any advise.
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chanduv23
12-17 10:18 AM
Hi Chanduv,
Possible to post a format on IV...with information pertaining to visa recapture etc.
Regards
Vsach
Sure, anyone can come up with a template. It is members who drive this thread. IV is all of us, you and me and all
Possible to post a format on IV...with information pertaining to visa recapture etc.
Regards
Vsach
Sure, anyone can come up with a template. It is members who drive this thread. IV is all of us, you and me and all
franklin
07-11 02:13 AM
I have forwarded this within my company and also have made arrangements to send it to Cisco.
i hope we make this a silent no-slogan protest.
banners will convey our point.
Perfect, thank you.
i hope we make this a silent no-slogan protest.
banners will convey our point.
Perfect, thank you.
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days_go_by
01-31 01:30 PM
Those who are celebrating .. consider this.. your employer decides for any reason to not continue filing I-140 or decides to let you go in 6th yr.. earlier you used to have at least possibility of sub labor.. now you are basically straight out of luck.. Also if microsoft needed some genius from China or India to join their team and the guy obviously deserves special consideration due to business need and/or his talent.. they are stuck..! It's not good.. yes desi folks were selling and buying these but remedy is worse than the defect.. they could have made changes to rules to make it stringent and almost impossible to get but no reason to place such arbitraty deadlines etc.. if H1B and GC is geared towards desi consulting.. it's should not and will not exist in the long run..
Indentured servitude and middle-men agent type business model is not ideal for anyone including US economy..
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that was the idea behind it, but when a feature is being misused and exploited that needs to be plugged. If microsoft needed a genius they can bring that person in on EB1 or H1B or B1 visa. there are many other avenues.
How do u feel that a person who arrives in US yesterday, buys a labor, gets his GC within a year while thousands of us are waiting patiently.
It is an unfair practice and should have been stopped long time back.
It's never too late though.
Selling labors became the business model of manyof these companies.
Are they doing anything illegal? NO.
Are they doing something ethical? NO
So, the law has to change to give everyone a fair chance.
Indentured servitude and middle-men agent type business model is not ideal for anyone including US economy..
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that was the idea behind it, but when a feature is being misused and exploited that needs to be plugged. If microsoft needed a genius they can bring that person in on EB1 or H1B or B1 visa. there are many other avenues.
How do u feel that a person who arrives in US yesterday, buys a labor, gets his GC within a year while thousands of us are waiting patiently.
It is an unfair practice and should have been stopped long time back.
It's never too late though.
Selling labors became the business model of manyof these companies.
Are they doing anything illegal? NO.
Are they doing something ethical? NO
So, the law has to change to give everyone a fair chance.
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english_august
03-13 08:11 AM
I am an IV old timer and I was wondering where the IV old timers were?
black_logs, ragz4u. logiclife, waldenpond, berkleybee, shilpa?
How many core IV members have already received their GCs besides Aman, just curious?
Of late is there anything of note even happening on the lobbying front? IV seems to have become another Immigration Portal kinda website where people are now posting all sorts of info, some of it not even immigration related.
It would be nice if someone in the core team updated the rest of us, who cannot join the state chapters due to personal reasons on the website.
WaldenPond is too nice to answer your question. Personally, I wouldn't consider it obligatory to answer a specific question by someone who cannot volunteer due to "Personal Reason", whatever that may mean. If you cannot volunteer, cannot participate in IV's action items, cannot contribute, then you are most welcome to use IV's portal to get answers to your questions or get other kind of information - but do not expect updates from anyone as your right!
IV is not a top-down organization and if you think that it is becoming like Immigration Portal then partially it is due to people like you who do not want to participate but just want 'updates'.
black_logs, ragz4u. logiclife, waldenpond, berkleybee, shilpa?
How many core IV members have already received their GCs besides Aman, just curious?
Of late is there anything of note even happening on the lobbying front? IV seems to have become another Immigration Portal kinda website where people are now posting all sorts of info, some of it not even immigration related.
It would be nice if someone in the core team updated the rest of us, who cannot join the state chapters due to personal reasons on the website.
WaldenPond is too nice to answer your question. Personally, I wouldn't consider it obligatory to answer a specific question by someone who cannot volunteer due to "Personal Reason", whatever that may mean. If you cannot volunteer, cannot participate in IV's action items, cannot contribute, then you are most welcome to use IV's portal to get answers to your questions or get other kind of information - but do not expect updates from anyone as your right!
IV is not a top-down organization and if you think that it is becoming like Immigration Portal then partially it is due to people like you who do not want to participate but just want 'updates'.
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piyu7444
05-12 11:10 PM
This might come as a surprise to some of you, but someone needs to say it out loud. GET A LIFE FOLKS!!!! there is more to life then EB, GC and all. it seem all we desi's can think of is how to get a green card so we can live here with peace and never have to worry bout getting laid off or anything.
Few points:
1) having gc is a privilege not a right.
2) US has every right to choose whom they want to have in their country.
3) If getting PR or citizenship of a western country is the goal there are many countries which have a fair point based system.
4) Considering the number of fraud's committed by Indian body shoppers and people who use them, i am not surprised USCIS is extra careful when it comes to Indian applications. Anyone who got his wife with no exp with software dev an h1b visa from some cheat in Jersey knows what i am talking bout . My freind got his wife an H1 after showing she knew software testing even though her major was fine arts and all she was good at was web surfing :)
5) have a back up. i came here in 2001 as student and have seen it all. I am on h1b since 2004. i knew we have too many people whose sole aim in life is a American GC. to avoid becoming one of those who check processing dates first thing in morning, i applied for Canadian PR, got it in 8 months and i am not even gonna bother applying for labor, i-140 and all those precious life controlling documents.
Wake up friends, you have options. Don't let your life depend on you application status.
Nitin
Nitin
USCIS has a format which needs to be followed to get a GC. We all know that how much they follow the format/procedure and how much they screw people from India/China (mostly Indians)
There is no set goal to be just in a WESTERN Country but there is an option to be in US (or for argument UK AUS etc) but that is an option. No one forces us to be here or to be anywhere.........Arn't we here by choice?
I am now sick of hearing about the fraud on h1b. If 20 people out of 100 are like bad apples does that gives USCIS the right to screw people from that country for GC. What is the relationship here? Why all Indians have to suffer due to some pathetic people? Why do we GENERALISE such things?
Not defending any of those people but if someone KNOWS S/W testing and that person is skilled in it why cant that person work? Just the damn degree does not gives anything, one needs real work knowledge.
Could write more but I guess I m done with this post....
Few points:
1) having gc is a privilege not a right.
2) US has every right to choose whom they want to have in their country.
3) If getting PR or citizenship of a western country is the goal there are many countries which have a fair point based system.
4) Considering the number of fraud's committed by Indian body shoppers and people who use them, i am not surprised USCIS is extra careful when it comes to Indian applications. Anyone who got his wife with no exp with software dev an h1b visa from some cheat in Jersey knows what i am talking bout . My freind got his wife an H1 after showing she knew software testing even though her major was fine arts and all she was good at was web surfing :)
5) have a back up. i came here in 2001 as student and have seen it all. I am on h1b since 2004. i knew we have too many people whose sole aim in life is a American GC. to avoid becoming one of those who check processing dates first thing in morning, i applied for Canadian PR, got it in 8 months and i am not even gonna bother applying for labor, i-140 and all those precious life controlling documents.
Wake up friends, you have options. Don't let your life depend on you application status.
Nitin
Nitin
USCIS has a format which needs to be followed to get a GC. We all know that how much they follow the format/procedure and how much they screw people from India/China (mostly Indians)
There is no set goal to be just in a WESTERN Country but there is an option to be in US (or for argument UK AUS etc) but that is an option. No one forces us to be here or to be anywhere.........Arn't we here by choice?
I am now sick of hearing about the fraud on h1b. If 20 people out of 100 are like bad apples does that gives USCIS the right to screw people from that country for GC. What is the relationship here? Why all Indians have to suffer due to some pathetic people? Why do we GENERALISE such things?
Not defending any of those people but if someone KNOWS S/W testing and that person is skilled in it why cant that person work? Just the damn degree does not gives anything, one needs real work knowledge.
Could write more but I guess I m done with this post....
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pointlesswait
06-12 03:11 PM
i dont think they are hiding any numbers from EB3 ppl..thay are just following the rules book to the letter...
and since only one group of ppl are affected..they dont want to take the pain of fixing the immigration mess...4-5 years is a normal lag for ROW and non retrogressed nations...
You can go to USCIS website they have
information of Freedom of information act..specified..you can get ur dose of reality check if you want...
instead of that you can be more proactive and support IV campaings!
Is IV interested in doing a Freedom Of Information Act request to USCIS how and when they used up all visa numbers for EB3-India. That might show some information if they cooked the numbers if at all. We might get some more insight which monthly VISA bulletin does NOT give.
and since only one group of ppl are affected..they dont want to take the pain of fixing the immigration mess...4-5 years is a normal lag for ROW and non retrogressed nations...
You can go to USCIS website they have
information of Freedom of information act..specified..you can get ur dose of reality check if you want...
instead of that you can be more proactive and support IV campaings!
Is IV interested in doing a Freedom Of Information Act request to USCIS how and when they used up all visa numbers for EB3-India. That might show some information if they cooked the numbers if at all. We might get some more insight which monthly VISA bulletin does NOT give.
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Bpositive
02-06 11:06 PM
How do we call DOS ? Is there any contact number for this Visa delays ?
Please let us know.
http://www.unitedstatesvisas.gov/contact.html
202-663-1225 extn 100
Please let us know.
http://www.unitedstatesvisas.gov/contact.html
202-663-1225 extn 100
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vxg
09-15 04:14 PM
Dear Friends,
If you are greened since Sept 1 - please vote and let all rest of our community know what worked for you or what did you do "special" to revive your case and get the much awaited approval this September.
This will give idea to other members to use the means to do the same and get the peace of mind you are experiencing.
PLEASE VOTE ONLY IF YOU ARE EB2 INDIA APPROVED SINCE 1ST ONLY.
Thanks,
What really worked for is the following:
1. several calls to TSC and one IO in TSC initiated a request for case to be assigned to an IO.
2. The nicest IO i ever met at an INFOPASS at Memphis office. She is the one who really got it done for me as she spoke to TSC IO and insisted my case to be assigned. She also wrote email to TSC asking that case should be assigned as dates are current. There was a problem in Biometrics upload and she got is fixed too.
3. My congressman also called TSC but by the time the Memphis IOs email and call had me approved already.
If you are greened since Sept 1 - please vote and let all rest of our community know what worked for you or what did you do "special" to revive your case and get the much awaited approval this September.
This will give idea to other members to use the means to do the same and get the peace of mind you are experiencing.
PLEASE VOTE ONLY IF YOU ARE EB2 INDIA APPROVED SINCE 1ST ONLY.
Thanks,
What really worked for is the following:
1. several calls to TSC and one IO in TSC initiated a request for case to be assigned to an IO.
2. The nicest IO i ever met at an INFOPASS at Memphis office. She is the one who really got it done for me as she spoke to TSC IO and insisted my case to be assigned. She also wrote email to TSC asking that case should be assigned as dates are current. There was a problem in Biometrics upload and she got is fixed too.
3. My congressman also called TSC but by the time the Memphis IOs email and call had me approved already.
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polapragada
08-13 08:43 PM
Yes, that is right, I said �plight of EB2-India�.
I am a passive observer of these forums. But some of the ridiculous notions floating around here have motivated me to vent. First and foremost, the law as written is highly favorable to people in EB3 categories, even from India. Here is how...
Take my example (and there are thousands like myself)....came to the US 8 years ago, spent 5 years working day and night to earn a PhD on a low (barely sustainable) stipend, got FIRST job saw decent money for the first time 6 years after I came.
Now, compare this to a person working an EB3-job for the last 8 years. Not only does this person do a real job that hopefully provides a respectable income but this person also has the option of moving to EB2 after 5 years of experience. So, at the end of the day in 2008; this person comes out ahead of me in terms of money, in terms of priority date (if ported) and most likely in terms of GC.
There are complaints all over the forum which have the stink of pretentiousness such as �oh..i am a poor EB3 waiting for n number of years� etc etc. What you guys seem to forget is that YOU are NOT an EB3, it is your JOB that is EB3. You have all the opportunities that were/are available to a person who sweated it out in the university system here to gain more qualifications and get an EB2 job. You CHOSE not to. The general discussion seems to center around cribbing about the US immigration system (Immigration by the way is a privilege defined by laws, not a birthright) and then blaming the EB2 crowd when they finally see the system implement the law as intended in the first place (horizontal spillover rules).
All these posts that refer to �my career is over because my gc is delayed� are nothing but a pathetic excuse. Law of supply and demand....if you have a skillset that is valuable, you will be fine with or without GC anywhere in the world. It takes a bunch of documents to remain here legally, all you need is a passport to go back if the system here seems so bad.
For all the attacks that are bound to happen, here is the fodder.....this is probably my first and last post, I haven�t contributed a dime to IV, will work here as long as I like it and if not, India is a great country and provides enough opportunities for any skillset !!
I feel education should be rewarded (Every where). High skilled should get prefference.
chaanakya may be you should consider putting your words in soft intangiable worlds...
I am a passive observer of these forums. But some of the ridiculous notions floating around here have motivated me to vent. First and foremost, the law as written is highly favorable to people in EB3 categories, even from India. Here is how...
Take my example (and there are thousands like myself)....came to the US 8 years ago, spent 5 years working day and night to earn a PhD on a low (barely sustainable) stipend, got FIRST job saw decent money for the first time 6 years after I came.
Now, compare this to a person working an EB3-job for the last 8 years. Not only does this person do a real job that hopefully provides a respectable income but this person also has the option of moving to EB2 after 5 years of experience. So, at the end of the day in 2008; this person comes out ahead of me in terms of money, in terms of priority date (if ported) and most likely in terms of GC.
There are complaints all over the forum which have the stink of pretentiousness such as �oh..i am a poor EB3 waiting for n number of years� etc etc. What you guys seem to forget is that YOU are NOT an EB3, it is your JOB that is EB3. You have all the opportunities that were/are available to a person who sweated it out in the university system here to gain more qualifications and get an EB2 job. You CHOSE not to. The general discussion seems to center around cribbing about the US immigration system (Immigration by the way is a privilege defined by laws, not a birthright) and then blaming the EB2 crowd when they finally see the system implement the law as intended in the first place (horizontal spillover rules).
All these posts that refer to �my career is over because my gc is delayed� are nothing but a pathetic excuse. Law of supply and demand....if you have a skillset that is valuable, you will be fine with or without GC anywhere in the world. It takes a bunch of documents to remain here legally, all you need is a passport to go back if the system here seems so bad.
For all the attacks that are bound to happen, here is the fodder.....this is probably my first and last post, I haven�t contributed a dime to IV, will work here as long as I like it and if not, India is a great country and provides enough opportunities for any skillset !!
I feel education should be rewarded (Every where). High skilled should get prefference.
chaanakya may be you should consider putting your words in soft intangiable worlds...
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smisachu
12-17 09:59 AM
Is this situation only in Chennai consulate or in all consulates in general? I have not heard of any trouble at other consulates. I am taking an appointment this week and will choose a consulate that may work faster (Delhi or Cal).
Any feed back will be appreciated.
Hi,
I am also struck in the same situation. My Interview was done on 7th Dec and so far I did not get the passport. Vfs website says "Your passport has not been handed over to VFS. I sent an email to 'ChennaiNIV@state.gov'. Got a reply that application is under process will be processed soon.
Thanks for all the responses.
DesiXP
Any feed back will be appreciated.
Hi,
I am also struck in the same situation. My Interview was done on 7th Dec and so far I did not get the passport. Vfs website says "Your passport has not been handed over to VFS. I sent an email to 'ChennaiNIV@state.gov'. Got a reply that application is under process will be processed soon.
Thanks for all the responses.
DesiXP
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04-27 05:21 PM
Hi,
What do you mean by IMG is very good?? Could you please elaborate??
Thanks
In Dec 2007 my dad got admitted to the hospital for 17 days due to DVT (Deep Venous Thrombosis). Total bill from the hospital was $48,000.00. IMG paid most part of it and I paid approximately $2000.00 as patient resposibility.
What do you mean by IMG is very good?? Could you please elaborate??
Thanks
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sbabunle
02-07 03:13 PM
I agree... The worst mess is between 2001-2003. I think most
of the 300,000K applications would be between these dates. When DOL adjudicated 180K applications, about half were already abandoned. If roughly half of the applications are approved, that would be 300K Visas including dependents.
An interim relief about 200K green cards will take care of problems tremendesly......But Schedule A is eating up unused visa's.
I feel like, it would be good idea to go for some recaptured visas at (least200K) than fighing for a whole immigration package.
This is a great point. Even if we get one time relief,that should suffice because retro might not happen in the future as there will not be 245si/195kH1bs. I hope one of the core group members might want to look at this. This will atleast counteract the exaggerated and bloated immigration numbers by the antiimmigrant groups.
of the 300,000K applications would be between these dates. When DOL adjudicated 180K applications, about half were already abandoned. If roughly half of the applications are approved, that would be 300K Visas including dependents.
An interim relief about 200K green cards will take care of problems tremendesly......But Schedule A is eating up unused visa's.
I feel like, it would be good idea to go for some recaptured visas at (least200K) than fighing for a whole immigration package.
This is a great point. Even if we get one time relief,that should suffice because retro might not happen in the future as there will not be 245si/195kH1bs. I hope one of the core group members might want to look at this. This will atleast counteract the exaggerated and bloated immigration numbers by the antiimmigrant groups.
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Ramba
10-07 02:41 PM
There is vast difference between US and Indian housing market crash. India RE market will not collapse like here. There may be a melt down or small correction. The simple big reason is demand for housing in middle class due to economic growth. Based on population density, US is 9 times bigger than India. Lot of land in US. But housing land is so limited in India. So there is always demand. Second reason, there is no sub-prime lending in India. Third, in India, housing loan is based on cash worthiness rather than credit worthyness like in US. So we may not see such a massive foreclosure/bankrupcy in India to bring the price down considerably like in US.
However, now the prices or extremly high, such that it can not be affordabe to people other than NRI or IT folks. 1 crore houses are very common now. Based on US economy it will definitly come down. It will be depend on how hard IT/outsourcing bussiness gets affectd in future.
However, now the prices or extremly high, such that it can not be affordabe to people other than NRI or IT folks. 1 crore houses are very common now. Based on US economy it will definitly come down. It will be depend on how hard IT/outsourcing bussiness gets affectd in future.
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shensh
02-12 01:31 PM
Just because a large number of IV members are EB2 Indians (based on the comments posted) doesn't mean that we should ignore the interest of EB3 ROW or EB3 Indian/Chinese.
Any talk about moving visa numbers from EB3-ROW to benefit EB2-India only divides us therefore should be despised. Let's focus on the real issue (supply & demand of EB visa in general) and serves the interest of all people suffering from this.
However, everytime someone talks about giving visa numbers from EB3-ROW to EB-2 India/China as the ONLY freaking thing in the world to do, I have to point it out to them that they are talking taking those visa numbers away from ROW-EB3. And that my friend, is not in the interest of ROW-EB3. Nor does it benefit India-EB3, or China EB-3.
Any talk about moving visa numbers from EB3-ROW to benefit EB2-India only divides us therefore should be despised. Let's focus on the real issue (supply & demand of EB visa in general) and serves the interest of all people suffering from this.
However, everytime someone talks about giving visa numbers from EB3-ROW to EB-2 India/China as the ONLY freaking thing in the world to do, I have to point it out to them that they are talking taking those visa numbers away from ROW-EB3. And that my friend, is not in the interest of ROW-EB3. Nor does it benefit India-EB3, or China EB-3.
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PlainSpeak
04-20 04:51 PM
getgreen and bboy this is for you .......
Dont mind the hypocrites here. They are blinded by frustration and have lost their minds. In fact, at this rate, the time may not be far away when they decide to bid adieu
Dont mind the hypocrites here. They are blinded by frustration and have lost their minds. In fact, at this rate, the time may not be far away when they decide to bid adieu
rongch60
10-29 04:43 PM
caliguy
Could you please send me the letter that you sent to Sec. NAPOLITANO-. My e-mail address is rongch60@gmail.com.
Thank you.
Ron
Could you please send me the letter that you sent to Sec. NAPOLITANO-. My e-mail address is rongch60@gmail.com.
Thank you.
Ron
santb1975
12-02 10:53 PM
We will add this to our Holiday contribution thread
As some one suggested ads are good source, I think the local state chapters should encourage members to donate/ join for recrurring contributions.
I just contributed $300. I will sign up for recurring ...
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Sunil
PD: Eb2 - 05
Contributions so far: $500
Member of North California Chapter
As some one suggested ads are good source, I think the local state chapters should encourage members to donate/ join for recrurring contributions.
I just contributed $300. I will sign up for recurring ...
Google Order #448925927215726
Sunil
PD: Eb2 - 05
Contributions so far: $500
Member of North California Chapter
